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Petra Liverani's avatar

Don't believe everything you read in the media. Just because they tell you someone went mad with an axe doesn't mean they did. I'm not saying these stories aren't true, I don't know, I haven't looked, they just sound a bit OTT. But, a priori, DO NOT ACCEPT THEM AS TRUE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE PUBLISHED IN THE MEDIA. Why would you when you know they're always sensationalising and trying to Divide and Conquer?

I did study a 2019 event in a 7/11 on the corner of the street where my sister used to live in Sydney - a transwoman supposedly went mad with an axe but it was clearly a staged event.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/seven-eleven-axe-attacker-evie-amati-has-jail-term-increased/11427110

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Caitlin PR's avatar

I live in Washington State in the bluest zone. I thought we were just the same as the other blue states, but then you learn things -- like we were the only state in the union to not budge red at all this time around. I'm sure there's huge fraud. And I've come to theorize that people here are different and more heavily manipulated. I don't doubt this story. I called someone out on a local FB group this week for calling the children of Trump supporters "baby maggots."

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spingerah's avatar

Yes I as well am deep behind enemy lines in washington state.

The west side is now attempting warfare on the deep red east. They are trying to turn stevens county into a dumping ground for "homless" iow drug addics, sex offenders etc..

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blablavatskaya's avatar

omg. is this the civil war they're always promising us?

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DE's avatar

that's what the slow walk has always been about

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blablavatskaya's avatar

slow walk? qu'est-ce que c'est ?

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DE's avatar
Nov 14Edited

Sorry. To "slow walk" means to deliberately impede progress. I confused it with "Long march through the institutions." The history of all that involves bragadoceous europeon jews believing that socialism, i.e. larval communism", must and will replace Christianity in American institutions. It continues to be a treasonous global criminal enterprise. See also Fabians.

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Luisa B Fijman's avatar

They are all DRUGGIES!!!!!THEIR BRAINS ARE FRIED!!!!

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JJ's avatar

Very interesting Caitlin. I lived in Wa for a few years. I think I know what you mean about people being different. But I am wondering if you can explain more. I still have family there. Could not wake them up about the scamdemic.

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Petra Liverani's avatar

Whenever a story seems to reflect people's feelings and pushes our buttons by default it is suspect. They cultivate and escalate people's feelings. So while on the one hand it may seem plausible as it reflects a certain feeling it still feels OTT to me and anything button-pushing I simply disbelieve, I can't help it. I'm so used to button-pushing events being fake that unless I study it and determine it's real I will simply believe it's fake - the thing is it makes no difference what I believe for these events anyway.

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DE's avatar

I too am the property of the Sovient, since St. Helens, though in the foothills. I have been saying for years that the zombie apocolypse is here, and the source of the contagion is fed bucks. The economy is mainly one of the federal grant factory. Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon are all deeply beholding to the yankee occupation force troff so what they want corps to say, corps will say, and require you to as well. The UW research grant goliath got prime admiral fauci germ warfare distribution authority during covid, it influenced the public health morons, empowered them, and turned every hospital into a branch of a demonic concentration camp. This entire area is rancid.

An anecdotal zombie detection method is to bring up the statue of that fucking mass murderer Lenin. Normal people will be appalled that such a thing is allowed in an American city, while the zombies will become agitated and proclaim it a testimony to diversity; truly enlighted goons will use it as an opportunity to threaten you. Try it.

I'm shopping for acreage in 100% red OK.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

> the zombie apocolypse is here, and the source of the contagion is fed bucks. The economy is mainly one of the federal grant factory

I've come to a similar conclusion these past 25 years.

I also think that the electromagnetic fields generated by the extremely intense tectonic activity--driven by solar and galactic Birkeland currents--has something to do with it.

Interestingly the area around Olympia (state capitol) is riddled not only with "fault lines" but also massive magnetic (i.e., electrical) anomalies.

Remember the Nisqually quake of 2001? The epicenter of that was just a few miles east of a major magnetic (electrical) anomaly that is so prominent it's noted on Coast Guard charts/GPS.

And local LIDAR and other mapping shows astonishing local field anomalies. This report (not sure of why it was produced) is written from a "rocks banging together" geological perspective rather than an electric geology one. But you can scroll down and see the extreme wackiness of these field anomalies in the South Sound:

https://steamboatisland.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Shallow-geophysical-imaging-of-the-Olympia-anomaly.pdf

A physical therapist I knew said that she saw--for the first time in her 35 year career--THREE severe cases of Guillain-Barre Syndrome (with near total paralysis), among NON VAXED people, within a square mile of each other in that Olympia Anomaly area just as Solar Cycle 25 was ramping up bigtime in 2021.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression

She was really freaked out by this. Sadly she Died Suddenly after her employer's third required "booster."

So I suspect that what we see in the "zombies" is in fact some sort of expression at the population level of "space weather."

The other intersecting element at least for the coastal PNW is the amount of energized/ionized water in the air most of the year.

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DE's avatar

I don’t know about much of that. But maybe. Something called me to the foothills. Something is calling me much farther away now.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

statue of Lenin? never mind, I looked it up. crazy.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Caitlin, same here. Have you seen this?

A history of mass mail balloting in WA state (Bev Harris of Black Box Voting)

https://x.com/BevHarrisWrites/status/1854408541957972081

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

100%. The media lies, even when they don't need to. It sells.

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Chris's avatar

It's all intentionally organized chaos, divide and conquer, from our transhumanist overlords, isn't it? Nothing makes them happier than to see us at each other's throats, killing one another.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

I think that's a great working principle.

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Petra Liverani's avatar

Yes, especially when it's a big button-pusher.

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DE's avatar

I don't believe anything that a 5-eyes government or its regime media say. I am almost as skeptical of everything I read on substack. For instance, I see nothing in your link that supports your international conspiracy theory in support of that insane man, the one that ":was under the influence of hormone medication, cannabis, amphetamines and alcohol." From where do you get the idea that the event was "clearly a staged event"? Staged by whom and for what purpose? Where do the three victims fit in to your conspiracy fantasy? Do you think they were just some Oz version of UN White Helmets and that all their wounds were painted on for the video press released by nobody?

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Petra Liverani's avatar

"By whom and for what purpose?"

I think intelligence agencies are in charge of staging events and work closely with the police. Not really sure but very sure that staged events occur all the time.

Purpose? It's always about manipulating us one way or the other but don't really know the specifics in this case. "Trans" is big in the media isn't it?

In this video in another article we see the alleged violence ... which is not convincing. From 1:09:

--- First we see the automatic door open with no seeming trigger - this kind of anomaly is very common in staged events. Of course, it could be that the automatic door isn't functioning properly but there's no hint of that in the admittedly very short time.

--- The guy who's struck goes off camera making it very easy for him to pull out a squib to make it look as though he's bleeding.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/evie-amati-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attacks-at-sydney-7-eleven-20190117-p50s1c.html

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Thanks for the reply. I get your point and agree with the possibility, certainly the white helmet clowns are famous fakers. The door opening seemed a glitch but maybe the clerk has remote open button and was like doing dred chic a solid yo. And what the attacker was packing around was definitely not an ice axe, wherever that idea first came from. But beyond that, the 2 victims fell credibly and the cops/medic story made sense from that perspective. He got that guy in the face with the axe bit. The fallen guy might have prestaged paint in his hands but I don't think he needed to. I don't know about dreds chic. I didn't see a 3rd victim on the tape.

So I don't know. Weird shit happens around psychos, be they stoned on the streed or drunk with power in a tower suite. FBI terrorist interventions always involve confidential informants going to jail -- which is crooked no matter how you look at it. I think they are just vile and will ruin anyone to file a headline with the congress cashiers. They are the secret police and, in the digital age, use handwritten forms to "irrefutably document" interviews. I assume Oz has carbon copy saviors that might have pushed that psycho to be their preferred version of a psycho.

But what does "staged" mean? Is it staged if cops just get a violent robot stoned and turn it loose on the town? Or do they have to illegally instigate immediate actions like the (guess who?) did to stage the fake J6 "insurrection"? Or does it have to be start to finish crisis actor bullshit like everything the white helmets did, or that jesse smollet did, or that bubba wallace did, to be staged?

Before this I thought the latter, because there is so damned much of it, even by that strict definiton. But I understand where you are coming from -- we are not talking about sincere actors but expert psychological manipulators of groomed all their lives patsies. When whatever breed of pigs go amok and to incite mayhem, I think it should be considered distinct from the latter fraud category. Nobody actually gets hurt by the fraudsters, at least not directly. But the pigs, man, I mean the pigs man, like they fucking kill people, man! So we should not confuse the two bad actor categories. Maybe we need to soberly and intentionally integrate some of that legaleze into our lingo so that proper attention is paid to making them properly pay.

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Petra Liverani's avatar

When I say "staged" I tend to mean really staged and when just a few people are involved definitely properly "staged". With J6 and the Charlottesville riots sure there was incitement but the purported evidence for death is completely undermined and a lot of people were paid actors so a bit of sort-of reality perhaps but very much "managed" reality.

I do not think there was a real axe attack in Sydney. What I should do is make a post on every event I think is staged but I just look at the time without recording all my observations and then when someone comes along and says, "Not so sure about that," I have to do my analysis all over again.

In the article below it says:

"She hit two of them with such force on January 7, 2017, that she sliced through her first victim Ben Rimmer’s face and bone before splitting the base of Sharon Hacker’s skull into multiple parts."

Sharon Hacker? seriously, that was her name? But clearly the base of her skull was not split into multiple parts. There is a video in the article where Ms Hacker is briefly interviewed and the contraption she has on around her neck doesn't look very convincing. Similarly, I see no slicing through Ben Rimmer's face just a bit of blood where his nose is that could easily come from a squib. You can believe it's real but there's really nothing that favours real over fake as far as I can tell and when there's nothing that favours real over fake for a rather implausible button-pushing incident I plump for fake.

https://thewest.com.au/news/crime/axe-attacker-evie-amati-was-fuelled-by-drug-cocktail-ng-b881078554z

Another very typical feature of psyops is overly poor quality of CCTV. CCTV doesn't look like the CCTV shown. This is what it looks like now (the video linked to is four years old).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WGdCsQ0G3I

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DE's avatar

You have clearly spent more time on this than I. While, experts are biased by definition I'll defer to your experience. But I know the landscape is more varied than you describe and your use of circular defintions, e.g., 'When I say "staged" I tend to mean really staged' , does not attract me to support your positiion. I do appreciate your generosity and dedication and hope you make progress against our common enemies. Thank you, Petra.

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Siobhan Justin's avatar

Maybe just this once we should refrain from talking politics at the family Thanksgiving gathering.

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Evil Harry's avatar

Nah.

They deserve the truth.

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Kelly Sexton's avatar

It's not all truth

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DE's avatar

You are right, there is always too much communist propaganda and associated insanity... like the best ice axe for purpose? should you attach a light? what length should be the lanyard?

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Evil Harry's avatar

In the name of democracy, how do we loving and tolerant and inclusive democrats silence all those evil Republicans and stop them voting for someone we don't like, or speaking words we don't want them to say.

They are causing division, for daring to criticise us when we scream and smash and burn and attack everything we don't like.

Intolerant bigots.

How dare they not want to pay for everyone else to live here at our expense.

Crossing the border illegally doesn't make them criminals.

What sort of racist want to see a valid ID to vote.

I don't feel safe around those MAGA's.

I bet they can't even prove they're vaccinated and boosted.

And they don't wear masks, or live in fear.............

/s btw. Just in case.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

"Communist propaganda" IS propaganda in this case. The warmongering imperialist corrupt s.c. "Democrats" working for oligarchs, are many things, but definitely not "communists". Look up the meaning of the word if you do not believe me!

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DE's avatar

LMAO

"... but I never signed the card... "

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

Before you changed your comment "document your ridiculous claim, if you can" to "LMAO ... but I never signed the card... " I decided to do that for you, because you seem to have problems reading.

I am not laughing my ass off, since I met a person who was raped as a child by satanic "parents". If you keep lying, you might end up in hell, and it is not a pretty place according to him. 100 times worse than he had to suffer.

"a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

"Oligarchy (from Ancient Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía) 'rule by few'; from ὀλίγος (olígos) 'few' and ἄρχω (árkhō) 'to rule, command')[1][2][3] is a conceptual form of power structure in which power rests with a small number of people. These people may or may not be distinguished by one or several characteristics, such as nobility, fame, wealth, education, or corporate, religious, political, or military control. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

"Authoritarian capitalism,[1] or illiberal capitalism,[2] is an economic system in which a capitalist market economy exists alongside an authoritarian government. Related to and overlapping with state capitalism, a system in which the state undertakes commercial activity, authoritarian capitalism combines private property and the functioning of market forces with restrictions on dissent, complete lack of freedom of speech or significant limits on it, and either a lack of elections or an electoral system with a single dominant political party."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_capitalism

Which description do the s.c. "Democrats" fulfil best? - Judge for yourself! But if you decide they are "communists" I suggest you are a liar with a big nose, getting longer.

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Evil Harry's avatar

Just stick to the truth and use facts. They'll still disagree and hate you for it.

Nevermind eh.

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DE's avatar

It seems to be increasingly hard to know what's a fact and so the credibility of those holding forth the assertions is increasingly valuable, e.g. "Nothing happens until it's denied.", is unimpeachable wisdom. :)

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DE's avatar

oh?

please tell me how your seance works?

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Eric F Coppolino's avatar

Hi Celia, hi all

re politics, most people are clueless but think they are brilliant, so it's not really a conversation. It's easy to have vapid opinions composed of explosive gas and feel oh so good about it. I think that we must acknowledge how this thing we CALL politics has infested every layer and corner of American life, and the Trojan horse is the caustic and divisive nature of every topic.

But note, this (by which I mean the rage described above, and much else) is not about politics. It's about living inside of a robot (the all-encompassing, all consuming digital sphere) where we must abandon our bodies to get here, including our feelings and our senses, leaving them somewhere back on the physical plane, in order to communicate in the digital sphere in a disembodied state. It seems so normal but it's shaping every molecule of existence.

Then we become like this; the influence soaks through our personal being, our relationships, and society — and next to nobody has a meek clue that what they are experiencing is being shocked out of their body and simultaneously trying to exist in the human realm.

I have two pieces assessing this situation, the first in writing and the second in audio format.

The View from the Physical Plane

https://planetwaves.substack.com/p/the-view-from-physical-plane

The Family Hunger Game 2

https://planetwaves.substack.com/p/starcast-the-family-hunger-game-part

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blablavatskaya's avatar

we abandon not only our bodies but our souls most importantly and we don't even miss them. it's a hideous shock when and if we get ourselves back together and realize what a bender we've been on.

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Chris's avatar

Well done. When I have more time tonight, I will read your essays. Although I take a more Christian perspective to distance myself from this madness, I agree with your assessment that the entirety of American politics is now some bizarre digital game, completely detached from the realty in which all of us (or those of us who are human beings) live.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

imagine being thankful on thanksgiving.

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Adrienne's avatar

Yes, we all need to make space for other topics in our brains.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

Nope. Evident truth does not hurt. Only resistance hurts. However, it is always a good thing to begin with funny fallacies, psychological conditions like "cognitive dissonance" etc. BEFORE you point out their "cognitive dissonance" for them, so they recognize it themselves.

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Al X G's avatar

Seems to be an overwhelming abundance of mental illness (TDS) more than partially fomented by the mass media - public enemy #1.

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VickieDawn's avatar

I don't hate "The Donald" but I honestly have never liked him. I remember him from being in the spotlight since way back in the early 80's. As a Real Estate Mogul, as a Casino Owner, involved in the WWA, Beauty Pageants, always on Television shows, Commercials, on Magazine Covers, Newspapers articles and Magazine Articles.

Seriously never liked him. But I don't hate him. Never met him. I've honestly never been an idol worshipper of the rich and famous,actors, celebrities, political figures or recording artists. I've always been somewhat disgusted with it all. There is something just not right, and quite frankly evil about people who are ok with being worshipped.

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Chris's avatar

I'm with you here. And I don't believe anyone who is a threat to the deeper power structures (call them Masons, Committee of 300, deep state, demons, whatever), would ever be allowed to become a US president.

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Kelly Sexton's avatar

Especially when they've been wearing diapers for years like Trump has.

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DE's avatar

You know that because you lick them clean everyday?

Is that where you get your shitass 'tude?

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Kelly Sexton's avatar

You are so disgusting. Everyone knows. Look at his pictures. Perhaps you wear depends also....

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VickieDawn's avatar

😂

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Ekoh's avatar

Seems like Bolshevism all over again. Most people have no idea how hideous and cruel and unhinged people were under Bolshevism.

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edward's avatar

The LPC, the NDP, the Bloc and the Greens all know how hideous and cruel are their policies.

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Rogue_Goyim's avatar

TDS= Take the guns first, shutdown the country first, push the jabs first, print all the money first, Divide the country first

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The Fallopian Chronicles's avatar

what does TDS stand for?

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Diane G.'s avatar

Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Lots of his supporters are really mad he didn’t address the dangerous jabs with so many unexpected side effects

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Rogue_Goyim's avatar

Statist Cope

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Celia, I would like, at an appropriate time, for you and others to reveal what is really going on. Much of America is medicated with psychotropic drugs - legal and illegal. How bad is it? Well in the year 2000 a study of MEDCO's pharmaceutical data revealed that "30% of adult women and 15% of adult men were on a prescription drug for mental health." At the time Prozac was the most popular drug. So what do you think those percentages are today (24 years later) WHEN in 2001 "911" happened, then middle east wars (injured/traumatized military)....... then the past 5 years COVID, deadly vaccines, force "medical" hospitalization, etc. Not to mention that the liberal were traumatized by four years of DJT and now are re-traumatized again. And who do you think is most likely to be on such drugs? Liberals - who are "in touch with their feelings." But these drugs are well documented to cause "increased grandiosity and narcissism, decreased anxiety including healthy anxiety WHICH GOVERNS GOOD JUDGMENT and assessment of risk; etc." They are also document to cause "false feelings and thus false MEMORIES of abuse and persecution by those close to them." And as one astute clinical psychologist noticed (in her Utah practice around 1990's) that "people on Prozac have an unusual reliance on figures of authority." Ponder the ramifications of that aspect. I know ALL of the above and more is 100%+ true - from experience with others. We are in a control "zombie apocalypse" but don't know it. Here's the final point. Remember OJ Simpson - a highly liked and respect man before he became a double-murderer-slasher. Remember book's title: "If I Did It?" You likely don't know that in JUne (?) 2006 the NY Post published a one page article of an interview with "a best friend of OJ". That man revealed that "OJ had doubled-up on his Prozac dosage not long before he committed those murders." "IF I did it?" IS the right question because a person on psychotropics is no longer the same person. Because when you change the emotional reaction of a person, to anything in life, you have changed their REALITY. OJ "doubled-up" on Prozac committed murders which at that time was THE FIRST SIDE EFFECT listed on the FDA website. The list of side effects started with "murder, suicide..."

For those people NOT on these drugs, wake up to this reality and protect yourself proactively from the OJ's of the world. For those ON these drugs, God help you because you cannot help yourself when Prozac is the god in control of you.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I was on many different antidepressants for almost 2 decades. Autoimmune issues are my real problem, the medical establishment refuses to stop gaslighting everyone especially psychiatric patients. I tried Prozac in the last 80’s or early 90’s.

I’d walk around with a smile but it wasn’t authentic, inside I wanted to cry but couldn’t. I foolishly kept trying different ones until I realized we were the Guinea pigs reporting the side effects. Chantix for smoking gave me 2 suicidal thoughts episodes. I quit that fast.

Now I have an Florida integrative medicine doctor who actually treats my autoimmune issues CIRS from mold exposure. Insurance dictated dr in Syracuse New York sent me home to die slowly because I was poor being on disability and couldn’t afford their mold treatment therapy. After they kept loosing the paperwork I’d obtained from the integrative medicine doctor. For 6 months. So cruel.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I know many such SSRI/SNRI accounts. Lost a friend to suicide who was THE last person that would have ever killed himself. My health advice to anyone that will listen these days is from the research of Dr.Satchin Panda (Salk Inst). I learned of his findings in 2018 and it changed all health issues for this old senior in weeks/months. IN Youtube video interviews by Dr. Rhonda Patrick, in 2017/18, he said these shocking words: "WHEN you eat is more important than WHAT you eat." Hard to believe. AND in answering a hypothetical question: "Sadly it is better to eat an unhealthy meal during the day because eating later in the evening turns even highly nutritious food into junk" He explained "junk" as: "any non-trivial excess circulating glucose (ECG) in the blood at/after the sun has set, causes inflammation continuously all thru the night and until almost an hour after awakening AND being exposed to light. That inflammation can spread, depending on factors such as how much ECG, to surrounding tissues including the brain, which science knows is not protected by the blood-brain-barrier from inflammation coming VIA the blood. And what is at the root of all illness: inflammation. And per the book "Honey Sapien (2022)" what is believed to be at the root of Type II Diabetes, Alzheimers (called "Diabetes of the Brain") and Obesity...... ECG.

And guess who advocate eating relative to the sun's position? Christ. This is in the little know book "The Essene Gospel of Peace" from the writing from TWO ancient documents/scrolls - one found in 1923 in the Vatican's archives and the other (a copy) in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Those documents are written words spoken by Christ to the Essenes primarily about having a healthy life. Not a routine that one could easily start but a start is avoid all carbs/sugars within a couple hours of sundown. Although Christ advocated no meat ("Don't put death into your body), meat should be at breakfast or lunch. Takes 6 hours to fully digest. This changed decades of chronic pain and illness in weeks and a couple months.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

try breaking your ramble into paragraphs for easy reading.

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Isobel's avatar

OJ did not kill his wife.

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edward's avatar

I do not agree with your opinion.

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edward's avatar

A guilty man does not run.

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Annie's avatar

These people are in a cult. Even possessed by evil. I avoid them at all possible. My husband's family has some of these loons. There's no helping them. Brainwashed at best. Some are downright nasty.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

They can’t have a conversation. My elderly mom , she watches the View. My Dad may be rolling in his grave at her madness. She even got her boyfriend to mail in vote . He was 84 and had never voted in his life. She got him a mailing this season too.

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DE's avatar

All the communists in both wings of the uniparty are certainly in that category. Thanks for pointing it out, slick.

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

An Ice Axe, like Leon Trotsky!

I must be obsessed because I'm assuming there is a hidden message here, LOL!

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edward's avatar

There is!!! But I wonder why the murder of people just because of their political perspectives is not carried forward to the religion of pieces whose actual verses state to "Kill the infidel wherever you find him."

Double standard for sure.

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DE's avatar

You are almost sounding like Maxine Waters, infidel.

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edward's avatar

Maxi Maxine and I go back a few years.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

Leon Trotsky was assassinated on August 20, 1940, in Mexico City by Ramón Mercader, a Stalinist agent. He died the following day from injuries sustained from a pickaxe strike to the head.

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Frances Leader's avatar

When I signed up as a paying subscriber I did not realise you were going to turn out to be a gossip columnist, writing umpteen poorly researched and irresponsible articles every day.

You are in Spain. You are not witnessing madness first hand but you whip up fear and loathing in support of your chosen hero, who, I might add, you told me last year had disappointed you.

You have lost me.

There are a lot of reasons that human beings (AND ALL LIVING THINGS) are getting crazy, Celia. The relentless shock and awe media together with being saturated in electromagnetic radiation is bound to make people irrationally irritable to the point of becoming violent.

Rather than write about the victims, can we please try to promote THE SOLUTIONS?

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Celia Farber's avatar

Frances, I have issued you a full refund.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Why? I did not ask for that. Can't I express disappointment without being chucked off your page? What has happened to you?

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edward's avatar

While I do not think Celia is far from home plate, you Francis have been candid and careful in the expression of your opinion. The whole mess started with the election of the ovomit and his talking Clydesdale moochelle. Then we had turdo up here elected by fools based on his grade 5 ASSistant drama teaching background and in spite of his ample pie face and ample ass. Worldwide the worst of the worst of the worst were elected...macron, merkel, etc in every western nation. BiDUMB then came along. Every one of these fakes had and have sh*t for brains.

This was the start and according to rote. Some things change but still stay the same. But the minutemen are turning in their graves.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

We've absolutely been MKUltra'ed. But ours was on a large scale so it only 'took' with so many people. However, there are a lot ways (deep web, college campus "programs") the CIA has MKUltra'ed people so that they can treat 'em like Manchurian Candidates. There are thousands of them out there.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My family! Every day. I thought my programming was completely broken, but how can I be sure? My family has zero interest in changing, so I’m the scapegoat/ nut/ fill in the blank.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I'm scapegoat in my fam, so I left. Now I'm scapegoat at work. Thank God I'm not thin-skinned like a snowflake Dem (the ones I work with) or it might kill me. I stay apolitical with friends but even that's difficult. Insanity reigns supreme in this climate. It is not ending anytime soon.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

I never thought of it like that. they were gotten at. interfered with. they're not responsible.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

It's probably the worst thing anyone could do to another human being. Make them a remote-controlled killer, or mega-star.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

I'm thinking of the original film version, 1962 — I also read the book, 1959, which is so interesting. Laurence Harvey is such a great anti-hero. the whole cast, the direction are great. I almost tried to foist it on my twentysomething friends. I think I will. to think we were all part of this experiment. feck.

there are so many instances of people being caught up in the nets of various social planners. it's really a dangerous species to get involved with!

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I love the original. Angela Lansbury was brilliant! The 20-somethings would love it.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

yeah. probably her greatest role.

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Tracy Kozinski's avatar

Maybe we should all remind each other this is what happens when you encourage hating one group over another, blaming one group over another. This is the end result. History has shown that. Maybe we should oppose this propaganda of hate this group or that group. Remind each other where this leads. Also where is the actual link to the article?

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, celia. one cited instance is a trend?

i did a non-google search and was surprised at how hard that story was to find. with the general search 'trump supporters killed by angry anti-trump supporters' yielded nothing. it wasn't until i narrowed the search to include very specifically 'daugher, father, seattle' that the search found it. i didn't find another instance.

and i hadn't thought of connecting the totally lunacy of tds with mk-ultra! what a fascinating connection. and i think it explains a lot, especially with the insanity at the level of those like rachel maddow, stephen colbert, and the view people who seemed to have completely lost their ability to see and to think.

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Celia Farber's avatar

No. true it is not.

I have published two cases, killing a total of 5 people, in 2 days.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

okay. now that is approaching a trend.

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A.M.'s avatar

I experienced so much fallout from the 2016 election that it really made me wonder--and just based on the circumstances around me my really strong gut reaction was that Facebook was a huge contributing factor. Something to do with the echo chamber nature of social media--especially back then. I always sort of felt it as an MK Ultra op, I have to say. One of the friends I lost had voted against Hilary, with me, in the congressional election in 2000. We both had worked in the news media, we covered Clinton's list of pardons with utter astonishment and now he was voting for Hillary? It really boggled my mind.

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blablavatskaya's avatar

yes, echo chamber for narcissists. no discussion allowed. I remember learning the hard way one does not disagree on FB.

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edward's avatar

You mean Farcebook.

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Joanna Boldt's avatar

What is TTB?

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Cosima laus Deo's avatar

The Truth Barrier (I think)

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Lee's avatar

Yep, it’s so easy to not talk about politics. It’s like ignoring the trees for the forest…but praising the beautiful green and colored leaves thereon and their miraculous ability to convert CO2 rendering it a beneficial aerosol fertilizer/stimulant. But…there I go again, dragging in the obvious.

Laos Deo!

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ILoveLiberty's avatar

We are NOT supposed to know that. lol

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Is there more than just this one incident? I read several reports regarding this murder and it appeared that the impetus for the killing was the father wanting certain lights in his residence left on and not anything to do with Trump.

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