Part 1 Of a 3 Part Series Exploring How Early Progressive Abortion Laws In Sweden Led To A Crisis Of How To Produce Research From The Aborted Fetuses. Lennart Nilsson Was Invited In To Document It.
Celia, I’ve been thinking lately how we are all WHERE we are for a reason. And we are here NOW for a reason. This often seems to me to be exponentially true for you. You are WHO you are and here for profound reasons. It is no wonder you sometimes feel a heavy weight in your life. Please take care and allow others to carry with you. 💜
The exploitation of these precious human beings for the photographer's own fame and monetary gain needs to be brought out into the light. Whatever the intention was by the photographer, the fact is he was exploiting dead babies for his own personal and monetary gain just like abortion exploits babies for personal and monetary gain. I remember watching a video (this was in the 80's) with these exact photos in it in sex education class in High School. After the video, the teacher then taught about abortion as being a completely reasonable and viable option. Sickening.
Dear Celia, when you think, nothing absolutely nothing can leave you speechless, from e v e r y t h I n g we know- this is mindblowing! I always wondered how he photographed it…..
My former husband took almost all books when we divorced- I guess he took this as well.
This book is still a good seller in Germany. There is NOTHING in the news about this “discovery“. Society in Germany is sedated and blunt, and everybody wants to be on the „good side“ for once. Even the publication of the RKI Files passed like a minor incident. I will leave Germany as soon as possible. The spirit is low - very low and Munich, in former times a lovely and charming city is falling apart and is rotten wherever you go- we have a red/green City Government, well that says it all
I don't understand how anyone didn't know how the photos could be taken? I always assumed that they were aborted or miscarried. You can't take photos like that of live gestating embryos and fetuses... Yes, it I sad, but also awe inspiring.
I didn’t know it was a secret, I assumed that as well. If the abortions were done under duress so that he could take the photographs that would be a moral ethical issue. But if they were aborted, and he was there and took photographs of the aborted fetuses - and there was no coercion or money exchanged between the gestating female and the clinic or the gestating female and the photographer what exactly is the issue?
Were the females coerced or enticed to give up their gestating fetus? That would be criminal to me.
Photographs of gestating fetuses is a powerful visual demonstration of the importance of human life. My take has always been that this photography has done tremendous amount of good in the world. But if they were done malevolently or with ill intent towards the would-be mothers of the fetuses, that is truly problematic.
All is being revealed. I mean ALL. Truth is like its own entity and it hates to live in the shadows. Human beings try to keep the truth hidden but its desire to live in the light is stronger than our desire to keep it locked away. It's a horrible, beautiful, disturbing reality that we must face as a species that is traumatized daily by living in the ecocidal, omnicidal culture. It's the only way we have a hope of healing and coming to our senses. Indigenous cultures have been trying to tell us this for millennia. The internet was what finally broke the locks.
I think they remain stunning and beautiful photographs. They show a remarkable stage in the development of a human infant. I remember first seeing them as a child and finding them amazing. I don’t think you could make such powerful images without feeling a sense of awe. As a brilliant photographer, he would also be a craftsman and technician. The subject is difficult for us because we know that human foetuses for a variety of reasons, do not always continue to term. And that creates all sorts of conflicts within us. So I think as viewers we are stunned by the beauty but maybe have had a naive vagueness about probing his process. Perhaps that’s why he himself was vague about how he did it. But mixed feelings about abortion and sadness about miscarriage are bound to be in there. Knowing nothing about him, I would argue that lighting the subject and presenting it in the most magical way possible helps us appreciate the amazing nature of human biology and development. We know abortion and miscarriage happen all the time. We know we are mortal. This adds to the poignancy of the images. If feels wrong to hear words like ‘scandal’ or a suggestion of fraud. The images weren’t generated by AI or some early equivalent. I think their beauty remains.
Agreed. Babies die for all sorts of reasons, not just abortion - and being able to show every aspect of development is fascinating and beautiful. These photos are still amazing.
Like you, I'm naturally a trusting person, but sadly I have grown accustomed to being deceived. The photos are beautiful nonetheless, and have probably moved the hearts of many who were told that "it's just a clump of cells".
At OMSI, (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry), in Portland Oregon, there is a permanent museum exhibit of real fetuses at all stages of growth. It's been there for many years, but I keep waiting for them to remove it. It's a beautiful but sobering experience that humanizes the unborn and doesn't seem to support Portland's hedonistic image. The museum is a very popular destination for school field trips and I wonder how many abortions were averted because of it.
In many ways their lives did probably save others. It’s a heart breaking story. And yet God redeems all our brokenness…. How anything good ever comes from this mess - that is a miracle of God’s redemption and love.
Yet another fascinating unvarnished trip back into history .
Reminds me of an exhibit that toured with much fanfare called “Bodies “ . I saw it in New York back around 2005, and was amazed at the beautiful brilliance of the design of structures within the human body.
Then, I discovered that most of the subject material was made not from people who died of natural causes, but often from Chinese prisoners jus before or immediately post execution.
I was horrified, and shocked at what I had learned.
The exhibit "Bodies" came up in our Zoom call. I never went near it but it traumatized many and we discussed how some people felt the same dread from Nilsson's photos as they did from the "Bodies" exhibit. Imagine that they used Chinese prisoners' murdered corpses and nobody but nobody got in trouble! Likely political murders.
Yes, I'd wondered how those amazing photos of the fetus inside the amniotic sac were taken.
I might be jumping the gun here, but I guess you'll be covering in part 2 the role of the Wistar Institute in developing those fetal cell lines used to make vaccines (among other things) - WI-38, specifically.
I posted a piece on this, prompted by my seeing the video, "In Memory of the Babies:"
It's hard to consider that at one time, there was anything like an anti-abortion movement in Sweden in the 20th c. But it was very early on in the last c. that they approved it at all, even for formally limited reasons.
I came very, very late to the Zoom chat - did you all get to talk about this topic at some time? I'm so sorry that I missed it, if you did!
Teresa, hi and welcome! People have missed you. ("Pélerine") We talked about it a little bit in the beginning, but soon we were onto more well worn and survivalist subjects. I will have to stay patient with myself as I figure out what subjects people are truly interested in. We can't get TOO demoralized to function.
I see in the eyes of Lennart Nilsson something I might call "dead," which looks to me like he knew he made some kind of fame deal with some kind of entity. My question is: Why no ripple scandal in publishing, for example? That Karolinska is utterly protected and sealed we get. How come nobody who got teen in is mad? Or maybe…the publishers…did NOT get taken in at all? I really respect Nilsson's stepdaughter. I THINK, but am not yet certain, that PhD Solveig Gyllers was originally kind of hostile to Nilsson because his materials were used to fight abortion in the US primarily. That's considered very bad in Sweden almost across the board. See how it's all things at once? This is not only about abortion. It's "science" and "vaccine science" and "polio science" and fetal cell lines…And the rise of modern Sweden.
I only think it’s the Holy Spirit at work here, too. A report from Sweden, of all places, reveals the horrifying truth about all this. And you are perfectly poised to pick up the story and tell it to the world!
Like “A,” I’m surprised that this story interests so few. You’re so astute to see the grimly fascinating convergence of all these evils yet again.
I look forward to the rest of the series. This is groundbreaking work yet again, even if few recognize it as such.
Yes they are in some way dark twins, Sweden and Canada. They just can't ever feel quite holy enough, no matter how woke they become. It's never enough.
I remember this article in Life Magazine. My mother used it to explain sex in a biological way. As a kid, just assumed the pictures were of live fetuses but now I realize he couldn’t have captured them in utero. WOW, eye opening article.
When I first saw those photos as a young adolescent, after moving past the awestruck stage, I remember asking my mom how the photographer could possibly have lit the fetuses so beautifully. I KNEW those babies were not en-utero.
Celia, I’ve been thinking lately how we are all WHERE we are for a reason. And we are here NOW for a reason. This often seems to me to be exponentially true for you. You are WHO you are and here for profound reasons. It is no wonder you sometimes feel a heavy weight in your life. Please take care and allow others to carry with you. 💜
The exploitation of these precious human beings for the photographer's own fame and monetary gain needs to be brought out into the light. Whatever the intention was by the photographer, the fact is he was exploiting dead babies for his own personal and monetary gain just like abortion exploits babies for personal and monetary gain. I remember watching a video (this was in the 80's) with these exact photos in it in sex education class in High School. After the video, the teacher then taught about abortion as being a completely reasonable and viable option. Sickening.
I think it's a basic understanding since the begining of the Christian Church that it is an act of piety to bury the dead.
It has to be anti-Christian to refuse to bury the dead, to desecrate their bodies, to tinker around with them.
What is Science, really?
Scientism is the new religion. It’s born from the pit of Hell.
It is just a modern "reskin" of the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose :)
Dear Celia, when you think, nothing absolutely nothing can leave you speechless, from e v e r y t h I n g we know- this is mindblowing! I always wondered how he photographed it…..
My former husband took almost all books when we divorced- I guess he took this as well.
This book is still a good seller in Germany. There is NOTHING in the news about this “discovery“. Society in Germany is sedated and blunt, and everybody wants to be on the „good side“ for once. Even the publication of the RKI Files passed like a minor incident. I will leave Germany as soon as possible. The spirit is low - very low and Munich, in former times a lovely and charming city is falling apart and is rotten wherever you go- we have a red/green City Government, well that says it all
I don't understand how anyone didn't know how the photos could be taken? I always assumed that they were aborted or miscarried. You can't take photos like that of live gestating embryos and fetuses... Yes, it I sad, but also awe inspiring.
I didn’t know it was a secret, I assumed that as well. If the abortions were done under duress so that he could take the photographs that would be a moral ethical issue. But if they were aborted, and he was there and took photographs of the aborted fetuses - and there was no coercion or money exchanged between the gestating female and the clinic or the gestating female and the photographer what exactly is the issue?
Were the females coerced or enticed to give up their gestating fetus? That would be criminal to me.
Photographs of gestating fetuses is a powerful visual demonstration of the importance of human life. My take has always been that this photography has done tremendous amount of good in the world. But if they were done malevolently or with ill intent towards the would-be mothers of the fetuses, that is truly problematic.
Just so. Of course no normal pregnant woman would risk her pregnancy just for photos.
It is quite obvious that they are not.
All is being revealed. I mean ALL. Truth is like its own entity and it hates to live in the shadows. Human beings try to keep the truth hidden but its desire to live in the light is stronger than our desire to keep it locked away. It's a horrible, beautiful, disturbing reality that we must face as a species that is traumatized daily by living in the ecocidal, omnicidal culture. It's the only way we have a hope of healing and coming to our senses. Indigenous cultures have been trying to tell us this for millennia. The internet was what finally broke the locks.
I think they remain stunning and beautiful photographs. They show a remarkable stage in the development of a human infant. I remember first seeing them as a child and finding them amazing. I don’t think you could make such powerful images without feeling a sense of awe. As a brilliant photographer, he would also be a craftsman and technician. The subject is difficult for us because we know that human foetuses for a variety of reasons, do not always continue to term. And that creates all sorts of conflicts within us. So I think as viewers we are stunned by the beauty but maybe have had a naive vagueness about probing his process. Perhaps that’s why he himself was vague about how he did it. But mixed feelings about abortion and sadness about miscarriage are bound to be in there. Knowing nothing about him, I would argue that lighting the subject and presenting it in the most magical way possible helps us appreciate the amazing nature of human biology and development. We know abortion and miscarriage happen all the time. We know we are mortal. This adds to the poignancy of the images. If feels wrong to hear words like ‘scandal’ or a suggestion of fraud. The images weren’t generated by AI or some early equivalent. I think their beauty remains.
Agreed. Babies die for all sorts of reasons, not just abortion - and being able to show every aspect of development is fascinating and beautiful. These photos are still amazing.
Like you, I'm naturally a trusting person, but sadly I have grown accustomed to being deceived. The photos are beautiful nonetheless, and have probably moved the hearts of many who were told that "it's just a clump of cells".
At OMSI, (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry), in Portland Oregon, there is a permanent museum exhibit of real fetuses at all stages of growth. It's been there for many years, but I keep waiting for them to remove it. It's a beautiful but sobering experience that humanizes the unborn and doesn't seem to support Portland's hedonistic image. The museum is a very popular destination for school field trips and I wonder how many abortions were averted because of it.
This comment contains all the contradictions of all this. We will never "figure it out." That is indeed very strange, Curtis. In Portland!?
Yes in Portland
In many ways their lives did probably save others. It’s a heart breaking story. And yet God redeems all our brokenness…. How anything good ever comes from this mess - that is a miracle of God’s redemption and love.
Wow they literally lied about everything
Thank you Celia.
Yet another fascinating unvarnished trip back into history .
Reminds me of an exhibit that toured with much fanfare called “Bodies “ . I saw it in New York back around 2005, and was amazed at the beautiful brilliance of the design of structures within the human body.
Then, I discovered that most of the subject material was made not from people who died of natural causes, but often from Chinese prisoners jus before or immediately post execution.
I was horrified, and shocked at what I had learned.
The exhibit "Bodies" came up in our Zoom call. I never went near it but it traumatized many and we discussed how some people felt the same dread from Nilsson's photos as they did from the "Bodies" exhibit. Imagine that they used Chinese prisoners' murdered corpses and nobody but nobody got in trouble! Likely political murders.
This has been known for decades, it is not new.
Yes, I'd wondered how those amazing photos of the fetus inside the amniotic sac were taken.
I might be jumping the gun here, but I guess you'll be covering in part 2 the role of the Wistar Institute in developing those fetal cell lines used to make vaccines (among other things) - WI-38, specifically.
I posted a piece on this, prompted by my seeing the video, "In Memory of the Babies:"
https://pathgirl8.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-the-babies
It's hard to consider that at one time, there was anything like an anti-abortion movement in Sweden in the 20th c. But it was very early on in the last c. that they approved it at all, even for formally limited reasons.
I came very, very late to the Zoom chat - did you all get to talk about this topic at some time? I'm so sorry that I missed it, if you did!
Teresa, hi and welcome! People have missed you. ("Pélerine") We talked about it a little bit in the beginning, but soon we were onto more well worn and survivalist subjects. I will have to stay patient with myself as I figure out what subjects people are truly interested in. We can't get TOO demoralized to function.
I see in the eyes of Lennart Nilsson something I might call "dead," which looks to me like he knew he made some kind of fame deal with some kind of entity. My question is: Why no ripple scandal in publishing, for example? That Karolinska is utterly protected and sealed we get. How come nobody who got teen in is mad? Or maybe…the publishers…did NOT get taken in at all? I really respect Nilsson's stepdaughter. I THINK, but am not yet certain, that PhD Solveig Gyllers was originally kind of hostile to Nilsson because his materials were used to fight abortion in the US primarily. That's considered very bad in Sweden almost across the board. See how it's all things at once? This is not only about abortion. It's "science" and "vaccine science" and "polio science" and fetal cell lines…And the rise of modern Sweden.
Aww, thanks!
I only think it’s the Holy Spirit at work here, too. A report from Sweden, of all places, reveals the horrifying truth about all this. And you are perfectly poised to pick up the story and tell it to the world!
Like “A,” I’m surprised that this story interests so few. You’re so astute to see the grimly fascinating convergence of all these evils yet again.
I look forward to the rest of the series. This is groundbreaking work yet again, even if few recognize it as such.
Sweden is not what it seems. No neutrality there.
Yes they are in some way dark twins, Sweden and Canada. They just can't ever feel quite holy enough, no matter how woke they become. It's never enough.
The War On The Child: Battlefront “A Child Is Not Born”
https://open.substack.com/pub/celiafarber/p/were-lennart-nilssons-iconic-world
That's a very good way to state it. A very good headline...
I remember this article in Life Magazine. My mother used it to explain sex in a biological way. As a kid, just assumed the pictures were of live fetuses but now I realize he couldn’t have captured them in utero. WOW, eye opening article.
This is horrific.
When I first saw those photos as a young adolescent, after moving past the awestruck stage, I remember asking my mom how the photographer could possibly have lit the fetuses so beautifully. I KNEW those babies were not en-utero.