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Celia Farber's avatar

When I was too nice in the past I had two earlier incarnations of The Truth Barrier go down. They made it hell and nobody could bear it.

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Elsa's avatar

We need to be nice to ourselves and to good people. To be "too nice" is actually to allow abuse.

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Celia Farber's avatar

True.

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shmashent Roger broke 🌿 twice's avatar

I was thinking in the song "No more Mr. Nice Guy" by Alice Cooper.

Funny thing: Salvador Dalí did a hologram with Alice Cooper.

https://www.openculture.com/2020/08/when-salvador-dali-met-alice-cooper-turned-him-into-a-hologram.html

Celia, I don't understand holograms and I really really don't want to understand them.

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Celia Farber's avatar

I agree with you Roger. I thought you were gonna say "Celia, I don't understand Salvador Dali."

I am counting on your help for that one!

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Suzirhae's avatar

I completely agree with you about the trolls. They probably are trying to get attention anyway that they can. Don’t feed them. From my bachelors degree in painting and art history classes regarding Dali, In a nutshell; Dali most likely had an erectile dysfunction and he may have been a cuck. He was also doing everything he could to stay relevant. Let’s just say that he had some issues. Hugs! You are doing great work!

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Celia Farber's avatar

I was trying to figure out about him and Lorca and the bad thing that may have happened. the sex thing.

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Suzirhae's avatar

I’m not familiar enough with this topic and here’s what jumps out at me; “There have long been rumors of a physical relationship between the two men, but Dalí told interviewers that he rejected Lorca's attempts to seduce him.”

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Suzirhae's avatar

You are absolutely right!

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Angela's avatar

I Love your Energy Celia!! The first time I saw or heard of you was when I was watching Reiner’s ICIC regularly!!

Thank You!! And I Totally Agree!! We need to protect ourselves from these trolls and not Allow Their Energy in Our Field!! ♥️🤗

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A.M.'s avatar

Thanks for that. I am always thinking and revising my thoughts about Dali. I'd say Dali was at the very least a master illusionist. I have a Dali print. There were/are a notorious number of fakes as Dali signed numerous blanks. He always always distorted perceptions. I don't understand holograms, at all, either. I do recall that they seemed to be the thing in the 80s and then they went away...or at least exited my consciousness....

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Kenneth J Hinnenkamp's avatar

I find that trolls are insidious. They make claims they cannot support and cloak themselves as "authorities." I have little tolerance for them.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Most are professionals. Very dangerous and good at what they do, which is divide and demoralize.

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Kenneth J Hinnenkamp's avatar

I am a member of a local Voluntaryists group. We plan on developing a permaculture garden that can feed the community with nutrition grown from perrinials native to the local environment. The idea is to grow food, not lawns.

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Celia Farber's avatar

wonderful!

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Deenzy's avatar

You should opt for the only paid subscribers can comment.

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Celia Farber's avatar

If the problem persists I will have to do that. I tried that once, on advice, and could barely stand it. But you never know. I'll keep an open mind. Those who sow division and use mockery should be cast out everywhere they show up, in the name of Jesus and under his heel.

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Kilquor's avatar

But it's so much fun to fry the tares- once discerned.

I use it as Navigator Evangelism Technique.

See DT report list above - dislike button imperative.

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Kilquor's avatar

Dear ,oh dear-

This is NOT intended for CF

it was relegated after being intended for Kenneth J Hinnenkamp.

Profuse apologies ,Celia...

Once again for KJH:-

But your refusal to engage implies your Ustacia roots.

This from a comitted amateur.

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CreativePath's avatar

I admire your strength and willingness to allow wide discussion. Trolls be damned.

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Jeff Schreiber's avatar

When hearing or seeing people criticizing you on this Substack I can only wonder. After all they are treading a space where kindness and fairness reign supreme. There are plenty of other places on the web where they can get their jollies feeding hate. They are out of place here.

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Celia Farber's avatar

why thank you Jeff. It was so good to see you, and hear you, the other day.

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Jeff Schreiber's avatar

And it was good seeing you as well. Miss you.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

those are the very reasons why the trolls are here. they wouldn't be if they weren't getting paid for it.

block baby block!

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Keith Jajko's avatar

Agreed. Here, they stick out like a broken thumb. Funny part is, *they* don't know that. I often play a long a little just to see how unenlighted they are as to their own narcissism. Ultimately I block and report, but often I make them work for it.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Keith, thank you! I truly appreciate that. Truly REALLY. That is what I need exactly, like a herd.

I wonder if trapping and expelling these entities could become a joint effort. Maybe in all caps signal that you have found one. I will always try to read comments. but all caps could say: "SUSPECTED TROLL FOUND HERE," and my eye will go right to it.

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Red Feather's avatar

“Entities” sums it up! ENTITY ALERT! I like the sound of that.

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Keith Jajko's avatar

Thank *you* for your fine work, Celia. Please keep at it during the upcoming Happy New Year. ✌️

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Keith Jajko's avatar

(PS: I would simply write TROLL ALERT in the comments attached to the Troll's input. Nothing more needs to be said really. 🤷‍♂️)

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A.M.'s avatar

I'd be ready to help but I would probably need some training! I fear I am not as savvy as you all are here, but I do find black pillers tiresome and I have a hard time distinguishing between people who are intentionally negative and people who are deeply discouraged. In my heart I suspect that almost all of those are trolls.

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John Essmyer's avatar

So happy to be you standing up to these (people, or whatever they are).

Love and Merry Christmas Celia!

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Celia Farber's avatar

John, I was just thinking of you tonight, wanting to call—will try you tomorrow. Merry Christmas,

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John Essmyer's avatar

Wonderful!!

I’m in fort worth for the winter, but still have my 201- number. If you let me know a time I’ll make sure I am here to pick it up.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Maybe 10 your time? or 11?

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John Essmyer's avatar

10 is good, it’s central time.

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Celia Farber's avatar

OK!

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John Essmyer's avatar

Good morning Aelred

Am physically missing the “drone drama “, but have’eyes on the ground’there.

A close and trusted friend saw with her own eyes an airplane sized “something “ slow flying over the Picatenny arsenal/testing grounds,

Officially, that’s a no fly zone for pretty much everything.

There’s been activity reported down here also, though it’s been cloudy the last few days with low visibility.

The good news is, I’m also missing the bad weather and snow.

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Celia Farber's avatar

John, I had a weird headache today and didn't get a chance to call you. Tomorrow?

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John Essmyer's avatar

Tomorrow is good

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Signme Uplease's avatar

Your quote above reminds me of another one I saw recently which I love: 'Stay human'. This is the essence of our current paradigm. We're being dehumanized at every turn. It takes relentless effort and deep spiritual work to continue feeling our emotions and not become cynical or numb to the horrors all around us.

I just return from a family gathering with my sister whom I love more than almost anyone. This despite her and her husband's family being jabbed and entrenched in the covid narrative. Biting my tongue over the past four years has been excruciating to say the least since both have since been repeatedly sick and diagnosed with cancer.

She now has fits of rage that have been scary to say the least. I experienced one before dinner and decided that I've had enough. I realized my mental health has been profoundly affected by not only her behaviour but other women in my family. It seems to be the women in particular. Vicious at times. I'm a softspoken person. Patient to a fault. Very calm and laid back. I have a silly sense of humour and that seems to trigger them.

It's tiresome to be constantly walking on eggshells like I'm expected to read their minds. I'm so done with it. It's not in my nature to call people out on their behaviour in front of others but if I do it privately they deny or minimize their actions and there isn't anyone to back me up. I witness them treating others in a similar fashion and it's very toxic.

I'm grateful in so many ways that I've been exposed to these behaviours by several people in my life. It's a powerful reminder that I must always be mindful to not react and to tend to my own emotional well-being. I'm learning to separate the behaviour from the person but also to not allow myself to become a scapegoat or punching bag. COVID has been one massive experiment in emotional endurance.

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Webe1's avatar

I, too understand your experiences. Rather than responding in the heat of the moment, I simply remind myself that I have no control over their actions but rather my reaction to them. I distance myself from toxicity and wish them well, because in the end that’s all one can do in an effort of self preservation.

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Jan Dumas's avatar

"Toxic" is the word, here. Thanks for the good advice of "sign" and "webe1." I've had to walk away from very close relationships and left me wounded. Thankfully with enough quiet time and discernment, was able to get over that hump in the road. What became the peacemaker in my heart, though, was to read or hear about the experiences of others. So thanks to both of you for your comments and of course to Celia for providing that opportunity. .

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Maral Lowe's avatar

I’m one of the free subscribers not by choice I lost 11.5 bitcoins to scammers long time ago, I’m retired and very limited budget. Too bad everyone is on the subscribe mentality now. It all used to be free

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Celia Farber's avatar

Well don't worry here. Will always be no paywall.

Subscribe mentality? It's a newsletter, kept going by 3% of the readers. THEY might complain, but they never do,

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Anna's avatar

And we free ones thank you Celia. I'd pay, if only to buy a coffee, but resources are tight, especially in retirement. Thank you very much for what you do. I've been following you for ages, first on Facebook, still am, and here. You are appreciated 👏!

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Ernest Judd's avatar

Since it seems most of the unfettered info disseminated requires some paywall, I find it is a good use for my credit card! I limit my subs to 10 'Stacks, and two others: Brother Nathanial(!)and the Duran.

I also only use it for reading material that is difficult to sequester from public libraries.

I have used Amazon for two books this year - in September and November... neither have arrived as of Dec. 24.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

For many on Substack it is an income stream for them. It takes time and money to produce this content on a regular basis. Back in the day people ‘subscribed’ to newspapers, magazines, even paid for cable tv to get their information or news.

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R M Jackson's avatar

I look at it like this . . . we now have to pay some independent truthful researchers to find more truthful info (as much as be can found in our current world), has the mainstream high paid ones seem to be owned by the "conglomerates" (you know who) that want to limit any true news, etc. Neither can a lot us support ALL of them, so we get it.

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Maral Lowe's avatar

That seems to be the way it’s going. I’ve been toying with an idea

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Maral Lowe's avatar

Push the wrong button I have a plan but don’t have any idea how or where to start

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William Taylor's avatar

This is YOUR space. Your 'realm'. Your creation. Your blood ,sweat and tears. You are the queen of this your 'realm'. It is yours to rule and lay down laws. Your responsibility. Why not show respect for that. Simple enough. If anyone can't abide by that, see ya. Just simple respect and manners for each other. We are all different, but that's how to learn and grow. The more context we have, the better the picture. We ALL benefit. Thank you for that.

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Celia Farber's avatar

William, it's soon a new year and I shall show respect for that, as I fully intend to respect many things in my life for the first time in ages. I respect all of you, more than you know.

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Cynthia's avatar

What if you’re feeling disrespected by a grown kid or their mate? What if they are disrespecting themselves due to trauma, depression, alcohol or drug use? Are they staying human, being only human? Sorry to all reading here. It’s the day after disappointment, missing the loved one lost in this hamster wheel of anxiety. On the flip side Celia, yes many people connecting, total strangers responding to hello and Merry Christmas. People longing to be happy and connected is apparent. How do we help us as lost to stay human? We all have our moments.

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William Taylor's avatar

Celia

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Sandy Masse's avatar

This is about the joy you are feeling. It snuck up on me here in Canada. Seemed strange, out of time, surreal. Could not quite put my finger on it. But there it is, like morning mist not quite hiding the sun. I’m glad someone else is noticing - soon we all will.

A Canadian Grandma

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Celia Farber's avatar

Sandy, I am so happy you snuck in this contraband about joy. Know that it is duly noted.🌲

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I am privileged to be able to read and comment. I am very happy I discovered your Substack earlier this year. I trust you will handle the trolls appropriately.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Thank you Dave. You can be caustic to trolls if you see one. or warn me. In this way we strengthen our pueblo.

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NAHLS's avatar

Thank you Celia, Merry Christmas, a happy new year, and all best wishes for the future !

God bless you, protect you, heal you, and empower you to carry on your good work !

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Celia Farber's avatar

Thank you NAHLS. May God bless, protect, and heal you as well. We're really doing the inner work this season, I feel. 🌲

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John Visher's avatar

No joy for trolls. I don’t know if this is trolling, but it’s true. Nuclear bombs are fake. That should bring some joy to many people. God bless everyone.

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Celia Farber's avatar

I am aware of this but not well versed.

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Deenzy's avatar

Nukes most probably are fake but look what they did on 9-11 turning 2 gigantic steel buildings to dust & all these “fires” like ones in California & Lahaina that turn concrete buildings to rubble but no burning to the trees outside. Then look at suspicious AF “hurricanes” that come out of nowhere with never seen before trajectories like Acapulco & NC. Also “earthquakes” like the one delivered upon Turkey for defying the NWO a couple of years ago. And the targeted squall that took out that billionaires boat earlier this year. They can take out whatever area or persons they want whenever they like & the bought & paid for media will report it however their owners want it reported.

That could sound like a doomer comment but I’m well beyond the fear now, I’m just a realist truther who observes the satanic clown show dispassionately

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SmithFS's avatar

No nukes were used in 9/11. That's a crazy idea. There would be radioactive fallout throughout all of New York city, anyone with a free app on their cell phone could go around measuring it.

Standard explosive and thermitic demolition methods explain everything about the 3 buildings collapse. And the pentagon was obviously a cruise missile.

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edward's avatar

Not so. A liar like you can never know the truth. Even about the ugliness of itself. A fake poet who cannot rhyme. A fake husband who is queer. A fake expert who needs a dictionary to find words its feeble weed burned mind can never remember. But most of all a fake male who pretends to be what he will never be. But you are good at being a failure pipet. Hard to tell you but at time truth hurts.

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gomera's avatar

There's and interview between 'Jerm Warfare' and Michael Palmer (an ex-UWaterloo prof and colleague of Sukharit Bakhdi) that gets right to the point. Prof Palmer is very thorough.

https://odysee.com/@jermwarfare:2/Michael-Palmer:6?src=embed

It's quite astonishing. The upshot is that no Atomic Bombs were dropped in Japan.

Whether they've since developed Nuclear or Hydrogen Bombs is a different issue.

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SmithFS's avatar

Bull. There is boatloads of evidence of the two nuclear detonations in Japan. Including volumes of radioisotope measurements and thousands of deaths/cancers due to severe radiation exposure.

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gomera's avatar

Like I said to "Kilquor" in a different thread... Prof Palmer is a thoughful man who has made a very strong case for no A-bombs. He's aware of your objections and discusses them.

He convinced me. And not only that, after convincing me it seems like it makes perfect sense. But he might be wrong.

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SmithFS's avatar

Pure bull. He ignores the vast body of evidence that proves it did happen, makes the absurd claim that the thousands who analyzed the events were all wrong, more than wrong, complete gullible idiots. And then nitpicks over little details forcing the sane person to do a whole lot of work debunking detail by detail which is a grotesque waste of time & energy for utter nonsense. And then he can't stop referring to his book he wants to sell you. Scam.

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gomera's avatar

Okay.

The book is free, though.

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Tim Groves's avatar

Have you ever considered the implications of the Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Theory?

In some versions of the Universe, including the one you live in, A bombs exist and were used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while in other versions, such the one Gomera lives in, A bombs don't exist.

This way, everyone can be correct.... unless they live in a Universe where the Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Theory is invalid. In that case, I'm afraid they're stuck.

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edward's avatar

Not yours. Your pea brain cannot even face the reality you are a fake poet, a nothing, a never was and never will be.

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Kilquor's avatar

600metres airburst has 1 million radiactive isotopes dissapearing on first day -10 million 10 days later -10 billion 10 years later.

-Would have expected better from JP , having worked with Bhakti etc.

What is pernicious is your refusal to broaden your epistemology - so that it no longer obfscurates your ontology.

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Tim Groves's avatar

My, my, what a lot of long words you employed in that final sentence. It has sent me off in pursuit of my thesaurus.

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SmithFS's avatar

Nuclear bombs aren't fake. The name of this substack is "The Truth Barrier", it's about Truth not Fiction. Just because you are anti-establishment, as I am, doesn't give you a free pass to promote falsehoods.

As is often said "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself".

The global Nuclear War threat is very, very real and has never been as bad as now. Proclaiming such nonsense as Nuclear bombs are fake is giving license to the War Hawks to continue their dangerous endless wars.

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Gecko1's avatar

Everything about nuclear weapons is fake and gay.

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SmithFS's avatar

Yup, and our Ukraine proxy war with Russia is also fake and gay. Those fields of dead bodies are all A.I. generated. Yup.

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Gecko1's avatar

Nukes are a fairy tale.

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edward's avatar

Yes you are. False but never equivalent,.

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Gecko1's avatar

Nukes, space, ISS - all fakery. What a psyop to run on the world.

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edward's avatar

Shallow pipet, cannot keep up with the real men. A proven fake. Your kind always leeches off the abilities of real men.

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Gecko1's avatar

There are many paths to enlightenment. More these days seem to worship Taylor Swift’s rear view.

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edward's avatar

That did not escape me...did you flatulate or defecate?

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edward's avatar

...but not as hyperactive as your self adulation of being a legend in its own mind.

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Tim Groves's avatar

The good news is that after absorbing your advice, I have withdrawn my license for the War Hawks to continue their dangerous endless wars. No doubt they'll be stopping any time now.

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SmithFS's avatar

Better yet, next Republican Primary for your state, actively campaign against any pro-war incumbent or candidate. Make sure they know: "We don't want your f'in wars".

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Tim Groves's avatar

I'm living in Japan, a vassal state with no sovereignty or viability on the world stage whatsoever. And I don't have the franchise. So I'll just sit this one out an let the people who can really make a difference—American voters, politicians, businesspeople and bureaucrats—go on saving the world.

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SmithFS's avatar

So who was the stooge who murdered the ex-PM, Abe? I mean who was he really, not the B.S. the MSM tells you?

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Tim Groves's avatar

It is interesting that the Japanese media's reaction to the Abe assassination was rather mute. Generally, ordinary people were shocked that it happened—if it happened. (I was shocked too.) But people's shock was not channeled into an outpouring of sympathy for the man. I was more shocked by that reaction, as a matter of fact. There was a state funeral, but it was not a universally popular idea.

To answer your question, I don't know who the stooge was really. The Corbett Report reported on it at the time—and James Corbett is based in Kansai, only an hour's drive or train ride from the scene of the event. I haven't followed the development since his report on it in 2022.

https://corbettreport.com/the-assassination-of-abe/

I must say I quite like the CIA-sniper-on-the-roof-of-the-building-taking-Abe-out-in-the- style-of-Day-of-the-Jackal conspiracy theory. Because the guy with the homemade gun story seems too ridiculous. But I really have no idea why the CIA would want to do a thing like that.

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Shona Duncan's avatar

I've been trolled by Hasbara since around 2013 and they can be vicious and abusive. Just today I fought back with a good screenshot, three actually, and that shut it up. I've learned to screenshot academic papers, articles, photo's and use them as Conversation Stoppers.

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John Day MD's avatar

Trolls are easy to spot, a certain kind of human/AI hybrid diatribe attack.

It used to be pro-vaccine at one blog I frequent, but a whole lot of it is Hasbara-trolling these days.

It is usually monochromatic. Trolls have one topic, one paymaster.

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Steve Nieman's avatar

Boundary lines essential to be drawn. Setting clear intention of what's allowed in your creative production true sign of walking and enforcing Divine Path.

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KatWarrior's avatar

Yes! Boundaries are imperative.

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Vinnie's avatar

Noticed there has been an increasing number of weird "posters/posers" as well!

Celia thank you for your fight, your free subscription and transparency...

Things here on the stack seems AI or whomever are attempting to make things bumpier for most...

The strong, ( which you exemplify) ...

will survive.

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